What do you think about the JNU ?

Government should BAN like JNU

11/04/2022 19:34 PM IST

JNU is known for violence and Student Politics. It's always useless baseless stupid politics. I hate such educational institutions known for violence and vulgarity.

A secessionist/authoritarian ideology always tends to be attractive. Anyone who is disgruntled in any way with the current system tends to gravitate towards such ideology which in turn promises them "liberty" "equality" "justice". There is not a single genuine Communist state in the world today. Not a single one. Because the philosophy of Mao/Communism, as awesome as it might be to read and understand, can never ever be practically implemented without it devolving into an authoritarian, oppressive regime. Any leftist party which does not even want a democracy, let alone work within it's framework, should not be allowed to function.

Steps taken to protect the institution of democracy and our constitution are NOT in violation of the freedom of speech and expression

2) you say that the protestors were not armed. Do you need arms to polarize an already polarized minority community? Do you need arms to bring around a revolution (Hint: Gandhi)? Do you need arms to influence a person who's already within the garbs of extremism and all he needs is a push to take up arms and aim to destroy the same democracy which protects his family and kin, just because something or the other went wrong for him?

3) The protest was against capital punishment!

Wow! Bro do you even communism? Any staunch leftist worth his salt won't ever protest against capital punishment. Not when Lenin, Mao everyone had blood on their hands and very publicly so.

So, now the question arises. What was the protest about? The protest was about hanging of Afzal Guru. It wasn't about 'hanging' so please don't try to portray it likewise. It was meant to mobilise Kashmiris and extremist Muslims, and anyone really, who wanted to rise against the Indian state. The left philosophy is inherently anarchist. Because unless you convince the citizens of a nation that things are not going well, and stoke the feelings of extremism and anarchism, you can't overthrow the current system and establish a new political order based on "Das Kapital".

Das Kapital has enthralled many people, including Arundhati Roy and the other so called intellectuals. It is an amazing theory. Pure economics. Pristine. But impractical. And people who can't see through the impracticality of implementing a system like that want to do it no matter what. And they'll support ANY damn thing that's against the current state, be it extremists, secessionists, anarchists or anyone.

This brings me up to another point.

4) Just because Arundhati Roy and a couple of people with their own agenda said that Afzal Guru was wrongly persecuted, doesn't mean that he was.

Either you can ignore all the evidences that indicated that Afzal Guru was a part of the plan to attack the parliament and convince yourself that the Afzal Guru was a victim of Indian judiciary, or you can accept that the protest wasn't about the legitimacy of the case but it was a congregation of a group which believed that what Afzal Guru did was perfectly right. (Remember, core leftists want to dismantle the Indian Democracy).

You say:

So, a group of students believe that Afzal Guru was framed, had no role in the attack on the parliament and his capital punishment was wrong. Big deal?

And were therefore shouting, "Har ghar se Afzal niklega!"

What BULL****!

I don't know how that makes sense. many people believe that Dhananjoy Chatterjee didn't deserve capital punishment. And there were many protests about it. But noone said "Har ghar se Dhananjoy niklega" because it just didn't make sense.

In Afzal Guru's case, the case in point is the ideology. And people think that his ideology was correct and hence were arguing that no matter how many people are sentenced to death for attacking India, more such people will come out.

5) Explaining the anti India slogans, you quote a facebook post which convinced you. It says:

BARBADI is used in the same lexicon as it’s used by different organizations in India. It means end to the military occupation of Kashmir.

I know Hindi and Urdu. In NO connotation is barbadi means end to the military occupation of Kashmir. I myself might be tempted to say that:

BARBADI is used in the same lexicon as it’s used by different organizations in India. It means an end of the season sale at Pantaloons.

Doesn't mean anything. You can only twist words to a limit

Democracy allows everyone freedom of speech and expression. But it is so that human beings can live their lives without feeling stifled. But the MAIN reason for this freedom is that so that no party or organisation with sufficient power can challenge and destroy the institution of DEMOCRACY. Protection of Democracy IS THE FOREMOST priority.

If a group of people are allowed to protest and convince others to annihilate the idea of democracy, they need to tried for sedition charges. And put behind bars.

124A. Sedition.—Whoever, by words, either spoken or written, or by signs, or by visible representation, or otherwise, brings or attempts to bring into hatred or contempt, or excites or attempts to excite disaffection towards, 102 [***] the Government established by law in 103 [India], [***] shall be punished with 104 [imprisonment for life], to which fine may be added, or with imprisonment which may extend to three years, to which fine may be added, or with fine.

The sedition Law is to protect the Constitution. And forces who want to create anarchy and do their bidding under the GARB OF FREEDOM OF SPEECH cannot and will not be tolerated.

Fundamental Rights of citizens are not absolute. In an order of importance they come below protection of democracy, destruction of social order and morals.

After the JNU clash, JNUites from different states are playing victim card and are trying to appeal to the people of their respective states to speak out against the JNU attack. But before speaking out or condemning the attack on JNU, I as a tax payer want to ask some basic questions:-

● Why I, as an Indian tax payer, should speak out against JNU attack when the JNUties organized an event to hail a terrorist Afzal Guru as a hero?

● Why I, as an Indian tax payer, should speak out against JNU attack when JNUites stood mute infront of masked goons who raised anti-national slogans like “Bharat tere tukde honge”?

● I, as an Indian tax payer want to ask the JNUites a simple question- Would you have stood silent if somebody had abused your parents? If no, then why were you silent when anti-national slogans were raised? Is it because you don’t love India like the way you love your parents?

● I, as an Indian tax payer want to ask the JNUites- Why only 3 universities out of 789 universities in India have all the drama, indisciplinary activity, anti-India attitude and law and order issues?

● I, as an Indian want to ask the JNUites- why do you need to study a porn character like Savita Bhabhi or the Zulu dance of Africa in “social studies” instead of the various poverty-laden regions of India like Madhepura in Bihar, Rayalaseema of Andhra Pradesh, Palamu of Jharkhand, Kalaburagi of Karnataka, Purulia of WB, Alirajput in Madhya Pradesh, Cuddalore of Tamil Nadu, Kalahandi of Odisha?

● I as an Indian tax payer want to ask the JNUites- why do you need to be anti-Hindu and destroy the statue of Vivekananda to show your hatred towards BJP, RSS, ABVP, etc?

● I, as an Indian tax payer want to ask the JNUites- why my tax money should be invested for such an university where the students are indulging in unproductive work and spend a subsequent longer time to complete their PhD papers and for that, they enjoy the free facilities for their prolonged stay in the university?

● I, as an Indian tax payer want to ask the JNUites- what are the dildos doing in the campus?

● I, as an Indian tax payer want to ask JNUites- why can’t we hear about JNU in other contexts like Sports, Athletics, Dance, Arts, Innovation? Why we only hear negative about JNU?

Sure, when I am asking these above questions, most of the JNUites would mock me by saying-

1. Those who can’t write properly are asking JNUites to study.

2. Those who haven’t got any chance to study in JNU are asking our merit and pointing their fingers on us.

For both the supposed statements, here is my reply-

If you think some people can’t write properly in English, then I want to educate you with the fact that English is not our primary language and so, it doesn’t alone decide whether a guy is educated enough or not. If you think that some people aren’t literate enough to read/write at all, then also I want to tell you that there are many uneducated people too, who are paying indirect taxes which are spent for your luxuries in JNU. For example- if a rikshaw puller purchases a matchbox, he is paying indirect tax too. So yes, even a rikshaw-puller’s money is used to fund for your extended stay and facilities in JNU. So have some shame before saying that a less educated person has no right to question your attitudes.

Secondly, no matter whatever great achiever you consider yourselves to be in your perverted dreams, there are many people with greater achievements (like being DRDO scientists)

Edit: I do think that the sedition laws must be changed to something to do with being anti national rather than anti government. In it's current form it's misused at times. But we do need an alternative to protect the constitution. Till then, this has to do.

Most of those who were protesting were doing so because they felt that Afzal Guru was a martyr for a cause. He wasn't a terrorist. He was like Bhagat Singh. No matter what you say about the speed of the Indian judicial system, one thing you can't deny is the due diligence that it does while processing every single case. Hell, we didn't send Kasab to the gallows before 3 years. Right from ground up, every case is allowed a number of investigations. And after numerous deliberations, investigations, and arguments was the judgement delivered. And it was challenged at all levels. Looks like you don't know about his story. Read this: